Queens squatters flee $1 million home after stand-off with homeowner, visit from 'vigilantes': Report

[Leroy N. Soetoro]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/queens-squatters-flee-1-million-home-stand-off-
homeowner-visit-vigilantes-report

Two of the three squatters who allegedly took over a woman’s $1 million
home in Queens fled the property after recently having a tense stand-off
with the property’s owner and facing "vigilantes" who tried to evict the
illegal tenants, a new report details.

Adele Andaloro, 47, said her property in Flushing, Queens, had been taken
over by a group of squatters while the woman tried to sell the property
last month. The home had been owned by Andaloro’s parents, who had left
her the house when they died.

This week, the Daily Mail reported that a pair of "vigilantes" had visited
the home to confront the squatters and try to get them off the property.

"We are looking to get this guy out," one of the men, who was wearing a
pro-Trump T-shirt during the ordeal, told the Daily Mail of why they were
there. "I am here to talk to him. I want to see why he is here."

The squatters did not leave immediately after the two men appeared on the
doorstep demanding answers, but two of the allegedly illegal tenants fled
the property the next day, the Daily Mail reported. Two of the alleged
squatters were seen jumping into a car while shielding their faces from
cameras and refusing to answer any questions, the outlet reported.

READ ON THE FOX NEWS APP

It is unclear whether they left for good. Fox News Digital tried to reach
Andaloro Thursday morning for any updates on the case.

Another squatter said he lives there legally and will leave after he gets
a deposit back.

"I have no idea what is going on here with this nonsense. I’m trying to
get my money back and just get out of here. I have nothing to do with
this," the man, identified as Kevin Balletsy, said.

LA SQUATTERS TAKE LUXURY HOLLYWOOD HILLS MANSION, RENT ROOMS TO ONLYFANS
MODELS: REPORT

"I have receipts saying I paid landlord and the real estate other than
that I am no part of it," he continued in comment to the outlet. "I wash
my hands of this, and I’m gone."

Late last month, the homeowner had a tense stand-off with the reported
squatters after she had met with a news crew for an interview outside the
home to discuss the crime. One of the reported squatters appeared outside
during the interview, and left the home's front door open. Andaloro and
the news crew entered the house, where they found one of the alleged
squatters asleep and some of Andaloro’s personal belongings still in the
house.

"This is proving everything I said, this is my furniture, these are my
curtains," Andaloro said on camera to ABC 7 as she entered the home.

"Who are you, sir? Get out of my house," she was seen telling a sleeping
man in one of the rooms in the house.

AMERICANS FROM COAST TO COAST TERRORIZED BY BIZARRE SQUATTING INCIDENTS IN
2023

The men reportedly called 911 on Andaloro as she called a locksmith to
come over and change the locks on the reported squatters.

Under New York City law, people can claim "squatter’s rights" on a
property if they have lived there at least 30 days.

Police escorted the squatters off the property, while Andaloro had a
locksmith come in and change the locks on the home. Before leaving, police
warned Andaloro that she could face legal penalties if she were to change
the locks, because it is illegal to turn off any utilities or change the
locks of a home where someone says they are a tenant.

Less than 10 minutes after the locks were changed, a man claiming to be on
a lease for the home pushed through the home's door, and police soon
arrived at the home again, ABC 7 reported.

ALLEGED 'SERIAL SQUATTER' FLEES HOME BUT LEAVES BEHIND TRASH, PUTRID
STENCH: OWNER

Police told the homeowner that "he can't be kicked out, you have to go to
court" and arrested Andaloro for unlawful eviction over her changing the
locks on the home, ABC 7 reported.

"It’s enraging," Andaloro told ABC 7 of the ordeal. "It’s not fair that I,
as the homeowner, have to be going through this."

Following the arrest, the homeowner told the Daily Mail that she and her
family were getting out of town, while calling the experience "crazy."

REPEAT SQUATTER WITH 'WITCH'S CAULDRON' CITES RELIGION IN PROPERTY
STANDOFF, ATTACKS COP

"We are leaving. We are getting out of town," she told the outlet.

Neighbors of the house are reportedly up in arms over the controversy,
with one local, only identified as Kosta, telling the Daily Mail he’s been
"on edge" since they arrived last month.

"We all know what they are up to, so we’re all kind of pissed about it,"
Kosta told the outlet Tuesday.

'ONLYFANS' SQUATTER ALLEGEDLY INSTALLS STRIPPER POLE, TRASHES $900K HOME

The squatters also reportedly carried out construction work on the home,
according to the neighbor, who said he saw boards covering the home and
claimed they were "doing construction on the house all night long."

"I heard a drill and saw through my window that they were drilling holes
into the wall and putting up boards," Kosta said.

The squatting case follows other high-profile squatting incidents in the
Big Apple, including a separate case in Queens where a couple and their
child, who has Down syndrome, say they have been unable to move into their
$2 million home due to a squatter.
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[Frank]

Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://www.foxnews.com/us/queens-squatters-flee-1-million-home-stand-off-
homeowner-visit-vigilantes-report
Two of the three squatters who allegedly took over a woman’s $1 million
home in Queens fled the property after recently having a tense stand-off
with the property’s owner and facing "vigilantes" who tried to evict the
illegal tenants, a new report details.
Adele Andaloro, 47, said her property in Flushing, Queens, had been taken
over by a group of squatters while the woman tried to sell the property
last month. The home had been owned by Andaloro’s parents, who had left
her the house when they died.
This week, the Daily Mail reported that a pair of "vigilantes" had visited
the home to confront the squatters and try to get them off the property.
"We are looking to get this guy out," one of the men, who was wearing a
pro-Trump T-shirt during the ordeal, told the Daily Mail of why they were
there. "I am here to talk to him. I want to see why he is here."
The squatters did not leave immediately after the two men appeared on the
doorstep demanding answers, but two of the allegedly illegal tenants fled
the property the next day, the Daily Mail reported. Two of the alleged
squatters were seen jumping into a car while shielding their faces from
cameras and refusing to answer any questions, the outlet reported.
READ ON THE FOX NEWS APP
It is unclear whether they left for good. Fox News Digital tried to reach
Andaloro Thursday morning for any updates on the case.
Another squatter said he lives there legally and will leave after he gets
a deposit back.
"I have no idea what is going on here with this nonsense. I’m trying to
get my money back and just get out of here. I have nothing to do with
this," the man, identified as Kevin Balletsy, said.
LA SQUATTERS TAKE LUXURY HOLLYWOOD HILLS MANSION, RENT ROOMS TO ONLYFANS
MODELS: REPORT
"I have receipts saying I paid landlord and the real estate other than
that I am no part of it," he continued in comment to the outlet. "I wash
my hands of this, and I’m gone."
Late last month, the homeowner had a tense stand-off with the reported
squatters after she had met with a news crew for an interview outside the
home to discuss the crime. One of the reported squatters appeared outside
during the interview, and left the home's front door open. Andaloro and
the news crew entered the house, where they found one of the alleged
squatters asleep and some of Andaloro’s personal belongings still in the
house.
"This is proving everything I said, this is my furniture, these are my
curtains," Andaloro said on camera to ABC 7 as she entered the home.
"Who are you, sir? Get out of my house," she was seen telling a sleeping
man in one of the rooms in the house.
AMERICANS FROM COAST TO COAST TERRORIZED BY BIZARRE SQUATTING INCIDENTS IN
2023
The men reportedly called 911 on Andaloro as she called a locksmith to
come over and change the locks on the reported squatters.
Under New York City law, people can claim "squatter’s rights" on a
property if they have lived there at least 30 days.
Police escorted the squatters off the property, while Andaloro had a
locksmith come in and change the locks on the home. Before leaving, police
warned Andaloro that she could face legal penalties if she were to change
the locks, because it is illegal to turn off any utilities or change the
locks of a home where someone says they are a tenant.
Less than 10 minutes after the locks were changed, a man claiming to be on
a lease for the home pushed through the home's door, and police soon
arrived at the home again, ABC 7 reported.
ALLEGED 'SERIAL SQUATTER' FLEES HOME BUT LEAVES BEHIND TRASH, PUTRID
STENCH: OWNER
Police told the homeowner that "he can't be kicked out, you have to go to
court" and arrested Andaloro for unlawful eviction over her changing the
locks on the home, ABC 7 reported.
"It’s enraging," Andaloro told ABC 7 of the ordeal. "It’s not fair that I,
as the homeowner, have to be going through this."
Following the arrest, the homeowner told the Daily Mail that she and her
family were getting out of town, while calling the experience "crazy."
REPEAT SQUATTER WITH 'WITCH'S CAULDRON' CITES RELIGION IN PROPERTY
STANDOFF, ATTACKS COP
"We are leaving. We are getting out of town," she told the outlet.
Neighbors of the house are reportedly up in arms over the controversy,
with one local, only identified as Kosta, telling the Daily Mail he’s been
"on edge" since they arrived last month.
"We all know what they are up to, so we’re all kind of pissed about it,"
Kosta told the outlet Tuesday.
'ONLYFANS' SQUATTER ALLEGEDLY INSTALLS STRIPPER POLE, TRASHES $900K HOME
The squatters also reportedly carried out construction work on the home,
according to the neighbor, who said he saw boards covering the home and
claimed they were "doing construction on the house all night long."
"I heard a drill and saw through my window that they were drilling holes
into the wall and putting up boards," Kosta said.
The squatting case follows other high-profile squatting incidents in the
Big Apple, including a separate case in Queens where a couple and their
child, who has Down syndrome, say they have been unable to move into their
$2 million home due to a squatter.

I often look at housing costs in other locations. Could not find exact
house but googled up a million dollar house in Queens. Squatters would
abandon it if they had to pay the property tax of $38,000 a year. Oddly
another costing twice as much was half the tax. Still enough to drive
out any resident.

[pothead]

Post by Frank
I often look at housing costs in other locations. Could not find exact
house but googled up a million dollar house in Queens. Squatters would
abandon it if they had to pay the property tax of $38,000 a year. Oddly
another costing twice as much was half the tax. Still enough to drive
out any resident.

Look up houses in Sunset Park Brooklyn, or literally any of the boroughs and you will find attached
row houses going for 1 to 2 million dollars.
I agree it's insane but that is what it is.

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[lloyd]

Post by pothead

Post by Frank
I often look at housing costs in other locations. Could not find
exact house but googled up a million dollar house in Queens.
Squatters would abandon it if they had to pay the property tax of
$38,000 a year. Oddly another costing twice as much was half the
tax. Still enough to drive out any resident.

Look up houses in Sunset Park Brooklyn, or literally any of the
boroughs and you will find attached row houses going for 1 to 2
million dollars. I agree it's insane but that is what it is.

Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

Post by pothead
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[T]

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

There is no greed in this world so insatiable
as government greed.

[Governor Swill]

Post by lloyd

Post by pothead

Post by Frank
I often look at housing costs in other locations. Could not find
exact house but googled up a million dollar house in Queens.
Squatters would abandon it if they had to pay the property tax of
$38,000 a year. Oddly another costing twice as much was half the
tax. Still enough to drive out any resident.

Look up houses in Sunset Park Brooklyn, or literally any of the
boroughs and you will find attached row houses going for 1 to 2
million dollars. I agree it's insane but that is what it is.

Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Swill
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- Anthony Scaramucci

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[T]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.

You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.

But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
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RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

[Governor Swill]

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.

No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
Democrats have turned in six surpluses.

Swill
--
"Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

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[Ed P]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.
No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
Democrats have turned in six surpluses.
Swill

And Trump gave tax breaks to the wealthy and a $7trillion deficit.
Great money manager.

[max headroom]

Post by Ed P

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable
will do that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will
fight over spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase
of a hundred thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.
No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he
did it with a Dem supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority
in the Senate. Since then, two Democrats have turned in six
surpluses.

And Trump gave tax breaks to the wealthy and a $7trillion deficit.
Great money manager.

https://www.creators.com/read/stephen-moore/01/23/its-official-trumps-tax-cuts-paid-for-themselves

[Governor Swill]

Post by max headroom
https://www.creators.com/read/stephen-moore/01/23/its-official-trumps-tax-cuts-paid-for-themselves

Spendthrift Democrats? Tax cuts paid for themselves?

Laugh laugh laugh!

Trump added 650B - 780B *per year* to the debt while he was in office not counting Covid
relief.

Lessee, even if we don't count the $4.5T he gave out in 2020 *and* the 1.9T Biden gave out
in 2021, that's still $2.6T added to the debt in just four years.

That means Trump added $650B *per year* to the debt PLUS Covid.

US debt to the penny
<https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/debt-to-the-penny/debt-to-the-penny>

Covid costs
<https://www.investopedia.com/coronavirus-aid-relief-and-economic-security-cares-act-4800707>

Here's the work counted by fiscal years.
Sept 30 2021 22282900363084.77
Sept 30 2017 14649194898519.78
________________________________
7,633,705,464,564.99 Trump's debt

CARES + CAA = 4.5T - Trump's debt = 3.1T / 4 years = 783,426,366,140.1225 added debt per
year by Trump.


7,633,705,464,564.99
CARES + CAA + ARPA = 5,033,705,464,560.49
___________________
2,600,000,000,004.5 /4 = 650,000,000,001.12 added debt per year
*over and above* Covid stimulus.

If you do it from inauguration day to inauguration day, it gets even worse for Trump.

Jan 20 2021 $27,751,896,236,414.77
at 20 2017 $19,947,304,555,212.49
________________________________
7,804,591,681,291.78

Works out to $700B per year plus Covid.


Swill
--
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- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

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[max headroom]

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 12:46:29 -0700, "max headroom"

Post by max headroom
https://www.creators.com/read/stephen-moore/01/23/its-official-trumps-tax-cuts-paid-for-themselves

Spendthrift Democrats? Tax cuts paid for themselves?
Laugh laugh laugh!
Trump added 650B - 780B *per year* to the debt while he was in office
not counting Covid relief....

Congress sets the budget.

[Governor Swill]

Post by max headroom

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 12:46:29 -0700, "max headroom"

Post by max headroom
https://www.creators.com/read/stephen-moore/01/23/its-official-trumps-tax-cuts-paid-for-themselves

Spendthrift Democrats? Tax cuts paid for themselves?
Laugh laugh laugh!
Trump added 650B - 780B *per year* to the debt while he was in office
not counting Covid relief....

Congress sets the budget.

Then why is the right blaming Biden for the current debt expansion? Hypocrite.

The budget process is a dance between the House, Senate and Executive with the Executive
having the most clout in actual practice.

The biggest debt expanders of late were Bush and Trump and both had Republican Congresses.

Swill
--
"Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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[T]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by max headroom

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 12:46:29 -0700, "max headroom"

Post by max headroom
https://www.creators.com/read/stephen-moore/01/23/its-official-trumps-tax-cuts-paid-for-themselves

Spendthrift Democrats? Tax cuts paid for themselves?
Laugh laugh laugh!
Trump added 650B - 780B *per year* to the debt while he was in office
not counting Covid relief....

Congress sets the budget.

Then why is the right blaming Biden for the current debt expansion? Hypocrite.

The first two years of O'Biden were full democrat control.

Post by Governor Swill
The budget process is a dance between the House, Senate and Executive with the Executive
having the most clout in actual practice.
The biggest debt expanders of late were Bush and Trump and both had Republican Congresses.
Swill

You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

[Governor Swill]

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by max headroom

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 12:46:29 -0700, "max headroom"

Post by max headroom
https://www.creators.com/read/stephen-moore/01/23/its-official-trumps-tax-cuts-paid-for-themselves

Spendthrift Democrats? Tax cuts paid for themselves?
Laugh laugh laugh!
Trump added 650B - 780B *per year* to the debt while he was in office
not counting Covid relief....

Congress sets the budget.

Then why is the right blaming Biden for the current debt expansion? Hypocrite.

The first two years of O'Biden were full democrat control.

Too bad for you, the discussion wasn't about Biden, it was about which party's Presidents
have historically turned in a surplus.

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill
The budget process is a dance between the House, Senate and Executive with the Executive
having the most clout in actual practice.
The biggest debt expanders of late were Bush and Trump and both had Republican Congresses.

You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

You can't handle the truth.

Tell us the last time a Republican President with a Republican Congress turned in a
surplus. Go ahead, I dare you, asshole.

Waiting . . .

Swill
--
"Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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[T]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T
The first two years of O'Biden were full democrat control.

Too bad for you, the discussion wasn't about Biden, it was about which party's Presidents
have historically turned in a surplus.

You were trying to blame presidents for the actions of congress.
You are trying to deflect responsibility. And no the conversation
was not about teh president in power.

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill
The budget process is a dance between the House, Senate and Executive with the Executive
having the most clout in actual practice.
The biggest debt expanders of late were Bush and Trump and both had Republican Congresses.

You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

You can't handle the truth.

You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Ed P

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.
No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
Democrats have turned in six surpluses.
Swill

And Trump gave tax breaks to the wealthy and a $7trillion deficit.
Great money manager.

We've never had a $7T deficit. Never.

That said, Trump packed $8.5T onto the debt in just four years. That's a an average
annual deficit of more than $2T.

Swill
--
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- Anthony Scaramucci

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Post by Governor Swill

Post by Ed P

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.
No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
Democrats have turned in six surpluses.
Swill

And Trump gave tax breaks to the wealthy and a $7trillion deficit.
Great money manager.

We've never had a $7T deficit. Never.
That said, Trump packed $8.5T onto the debt in just four years. That's a an average
annual deficit of more than $2T.
Swill

And WHO pray tell cdontrolled the congress?

[Governor Swill]

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Ed P

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.
No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
Democrats have turned in six surpluses.
Swill

And Trump gave tax breaks to the wealthy and a $7trillion deficit.
Great money manager.

We've never had a $7T deficit. Never.
That said, Trump packed $8.5T onto the debt in just four years. That's a an average
annual deficit of more than $2T.

Corrected this in another post but . . .

I did a more detailed examination of the debt under Trump and he added just a bit over $7T
to it in four years. He averaged about 700B a year in new debt not counting Covid.

Post by T
And WHO pray tell cdontrolled the congress?

Mostly the GOP. They had both houses his first two years. His second Congress was split
between the Dems in the House and the Reps in the Senate. So, yeah, mostly the
Republicans.

Swill
--
"Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

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Post by Governor Swill

Post by T
And WHO pray tell cdontrolled the congress?

Mostly the GOP. They had both houses his first two years. His second Congress was split
between the Dems in the House and the Reps in the Senate. So, yeah, mostly the
Republicans.

Controlled by Never Trump RINO's. Look up who was
speaker of the house. Total RINO. And he LOVED to
spend and spend and spend.

https://townhall.com/political-cartoons/afbranco/2024/03/20/204136

[Governor Swill]

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T
And WHO pray tell cdontrolled the congress?

Mostly the GOP. They had both houses his first two years. His second Congress was split
between the Dems in the House and the Reps in the Senate. So, yeah, mostly the
Republicans.

Controlled by Never Trump RINO's.
https://townhall.com/political-cartoons/afbranco/2024/03/20/204136

Trump is a RINO.

Post by T
Look up who was speaker of the house. Total RINO.

Ryan was a noted deficit hawk.

Post by T
And he LOVED to spend and spend and spend.

Do you consider tax cuts "spending"?

https://www.gocomics.com/robrogers/2024/03/22

Swill
--
"Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

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Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T
And WHO pray tell cdontrolled the congress?

Mostly the GOP. They had both houses his first two years. His second Congress was split
between the Dems in the House and the Reps in the Senate. So, yeah, mostly the
Republicans.

Controlled by Never Trump RINO's.
https://townhall.com/political-cartoons/afbranco/2024/03/20/204136

Trump is a RINO.

You been smoking banana peels again? That is an
outright lie make up by American Pravda and
their handlers in the democratic party.
But that did not stop you from regurgitating it.

Next shall we hear from you about Trump colluding
with the Russians?

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T
Look up who was speaker of the house. Total RINO.

Ryan was a noted deficit hawk.

His actions and his words were opposite. RINO's do
that. The claim they are conservative and they
do the opposite. Ryan was the best friend the
democrats had. Trump got rid of him.

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T
And he LOVED to spend and spend and spend.

Do you consider tax cuts "spending"?

One of the problems is that tax cuts increase revenue
and the democrats and RINO's spend like crazy when they
see the new money arrive, wiping out any increase in
revenue.

Oh and the RINO made sure and take back as much of
the tax cut that he could.

There is no greed in this world as insatiable as
government greed.

[Governor Swill]

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T
And WHO pray tell cdontrolled the congress?

Mostly the GOP. They had both houses his first two years. His second Congress was split
between the Dems in the House and the Reps in the Senate. So, yeah, mostly the
Republicans.

Controlled by Never Trump RINO's.
https://townhall.com/political-cartoons/afbranco/2024/03/20/204136

Trump is a RINO.

You been smoking banana peels again? That is an
outright lie

An observation of mine. THis current crop of freaks and vicious white supremacists has no
place in the Party of Lincoln.

Post by T
Next shall we hear from you about Trump colluding
with the Russians?

Old news. Mueller told us years ago.

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T
Look up who was speaker of the house. Total RINO.

Ryan was a noted deficit hawk.

His actions and his words were opposite. RINO's do
that. The claim they are conservative and they
do the opposite. Ryan was the best friend the
democrats had. Trump got rid of him.

Enough of your lies and revisionist history. I have better things to do with my time than
refute every psychotic wandering of Russian Trolls.

Swill
--
"Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

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Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.
No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
Democrats have turned in six surpluses.
Swill

Dear Swill,

You did not list the budgets and the deficits spending versus
what parties in charge. Guess the "Truth Ministry" left that
crap out.

And you missed "the Zipper's" one year balanced budget, which
he did by doing a one time IRA transfer to Roth IRAs
and slashing the defense budget, place our security at
risk and ultimately leading to 911.

¡Viva la libertad, carajo!

-T

[Mort Adella]

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that.  If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm.  Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point.  Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing.  Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.
No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate.
Since then, two
Democrats have turned in six surpluses.
Swill

Dear Swill,
   You did not list the budgets and the deficits spending versus
what parties in charge.  Guess the "Truth Ministry" left that
crap out.
   And you missed "the Zipper's" one year balanced budget, which
he did by doing a one time IRA transfer to Roth IRAs
and slashing the defense budget, place our security at
risk and ultimately leading to 911.
   ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!
-T

Some good economic information here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

Federal budget deficits
Blinder and Watson reported that budget deficits tended to be smaller
under Democrats, at 2.1% potential GDP versus 2.8% potential GDP for
Republicans, a difference of about 0.7 of a percentage point. They wrote
that higher budget deficits should theoretically have boosted the
economy more for Republicans, and therefore cannot explain the greater
GDP growth under Democrats.[1]

Since 1981, federal budget deficits have increased under Republican
presidents Reagan, both Bushes and Trump, while deficits have declined
under Democratic presidents Clinton and Obama. The economy ran surpluses
during Clinton's last four fiscal years, the first surpluses since 1969.
The deficit was projected to decline sharply in Joe Biden's first fiscal
year.

[T]

Post by Mort Adella

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that.  If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm.  Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point.  Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing.  Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.
No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate.
Since then, two
Democrats have turned in six surpluses.
Swill

Dear Swill,
    You did not list the budgets and the deficits spending versus
what parties in charge.  Guess the "Truth Ministry" left that
crap out.
    And you missed "the Zipper's" one year balanced budget, which
he did by doing a one time IRA transfer to Roth IRAs
and slashing the defense budget, place our security at
risk and ultimately leading to 911.
    ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!
-T

Some good economic information here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party
Federal budget deficits
Blinder and Watson reported that budget deficits tended to be smaller
under Democrats, at 2.1% potential GDP versus 2.8% potential GDP for
that higher budget deficits should theoretically have boosted the
economy more for Republicans, and therefore cannot explain the greater
GDP growth under Democrats.[1]
Since 1981, federal budget deficits have increased under Republican
presidents Reagan, both Bushes and Trump, while deficits have declined
under Democratic presidents Clinton

Clinton had a republican congress.

Post by Mort Adella
and Obama. The economy ran surpluses
during Clinton's last four fiscal years, the first surpluses since 1969.
The deficit was projected to decline sharply in Joe Biden's first fiscal
year.

Useless information unless you show what party controlled congress.
Congress is the that sets the budget, not the president.

[Governor Swill]

Post by T
Useless information unless you show what party controlled congress.
Congress is the that sets the budget, not the president.

There's a flaw in that logic.

The Democrats held a veto proof majority in Eisenhower's last Senate and a supermajority
in his last House. They held veto proof majorities in both Houses when his 1957 budget
also balanced.

The Republicans held both Houses during Clinton's surplus years but they also held both
Houses during Bush's exploding deficit years.

Further, under Clinton, the Republicans were desperate to force Clinton to sign spending
bills that would tank his surpluses.

The GOP FOUGHT spending restraint despite their own 1997 spending caps (which they
promptly ignored). Delay himself announced his intention to spend the surplus in 1998.

''We're going to spend it, and then some,'' Mr. DeLay said. ''From the
get-go, the strategy has always been we're going to spend what's
left.''"
and . . .
". . . Republicans had a plan to use various budgetary mechanisms that
would allow them to say they had stuck to the spending caps they
imposed in 1997."
<http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/06/us/using-surplus-forces-clinton-to-sign-bills-delay-says.html>

"The Republicans spent the August recess talking about a projected
10-year budget surplus that they said would underwrite their proposed
tax cut. But now Dan L. Crippen, the director of the Congressional
Budget Office, says no surplus is coming soon. The developing plans of
Congressional Republicans could drain away at least $25 billion,
wiping out next year's projected $14 billion surplus and creating an
$11 billion deficit, Mr. Crippen calculates."
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/09/us/lawmakers-spending-plans-could-turn-surplus-to-deficit.html>

[Eleven billion dollar deficit? WOW!]

"Representative Tom DeLay, the House majority whip and conservative
major domo, said in an interview last week that draining the surplus
was a deliberate strategy designed to force President Clinton to
submit to the Republicans' political will."
<http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/15/weekinreview/the-nation-hunting-for-that-elusive-surplus.html>

"WASHINGTON, Sept. 14— Draining the budget surplus for 2000 and
thirsty for more money to finance their spending bills, Republicans
will tap the projected surplus for 2001 for $12 billion or more, the
chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee said today."
<http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/15/us/republican-plans-to-tap-2001-surplus-now.html>

There are many more articles showing the GOP House in the late
nineties attempting to spend both current and future surpluses.

Not that the Dems weren't complicit. They tried to restore spending
for some of their pork projects and Clinton shut them down as well.

Swill
--
"Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

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Post by Governor Swill
The Democrats held a veto proof majority in Eisenhower's last Senate and a supermajority
in his last House. They held veto proof majorities in both Houses when his 1957 budget
also balanced.

Democrats in Eisenhower's era were more conservative than
today's Republicans

Post by Governor Swill
The Republicans held both Houses during Clinton's surplus years but they also held both
Houses during Bush's exploding deficit years.

House Republicans in that era were dominate by RINO's, so
same as the Democrats.

[Governor Swill]

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill
The Democrats held a veto proof majority in Eisenhower's last Senate and a supermajority
in his last House. They held veto proof majorities in both Houses when his 1957 budget
also balanced.

Democrats in Eisenhower's era were more conservative than
today's Republicans

Post by Governor Swill
The Republicans held both Houses during Clinton's surplus years but they also held both
Houses during Bush's exploding deficit years.

House Republicans in that era were dominate by RINO's, so
same as the Democrats.

Having lost the debate, now you're just going to start lying? Keep that up and this will
be a short conversation.

Eisenhower's Republicans were nowhere near as radical, reactionary and rightist as today's
conservatives. They weren't even as conservative as Clinton's Republicans.

Swill
--
"Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

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Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill
The Democrats held a veto proof majority in Eisenhower's last Senate and a supermajority
in his last House. They held veto proof majorities in both Houses when his 1957 budget
also balanced.

Democrats in Eisenhower's era were more conservative than
today's Republicans

Post by Governor Swill
The Republicans held both Houses during Clinton's surplus years but they also held both
Houses during Bush's exploding deficit years.

House Republicans in that era were dominate by RINO's, so
same as the Democrats.

Having lost the debate, now you're just going to start lying? Keep that up and this will
be a short conversation.
Eisenhower's Republicans were nowhere near as radical, reactionary and rightist as today's
conservatives. They weren't even as conservative as Clinton's Republicans.
Swill

You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

[Governor Swill]

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill
The Democrats held a veto proof majority in Eisenhower's last Senate and a supermajority
in his last House. They held veto proof majorities in both Houses when his 1957 budget
also balanced.

Democrats in Eisenhower's era were more conservative than
today's Republicans

Post by Governor Swill
The Republicans held both Houses during Clinton's surplus years but they also held both
Houses during Bush's exploding deficit years.

House Republicans in that era were dominate by RINO's, so
same as the Democrats.

Having lost the debate, now you're just going to start lying? Keep that up and this will
be a short conversation.
Eisenhower's Republicans were nowhere near as radical, reactionary and rightist as today's
conservatives. They weren't even as conservative as Clinton's Republicans.
Swill

You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

Short conversation.

Swill
--
"Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

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Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

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Post by Governor Swill

Post by T
You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

Short conversation.
Swill

I am sure you will get assigned something from the Truth
Ministry that you will puke all over us in the near future.

[Alain Burger]

Post by Mort Adella

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that.  If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a
hundred thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm.  Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point.  Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing.  Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.
No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate.
Since then, two
Democrats have turned in six surpluses.
Swill

Dear Swill,
   You did not list the budgets and the deficits spending versus
what parties in charge.  Guess the "Truth Ministry" left that
crap out.
   And you missed "the Zipper's" one year balanced budget, which
he did by doing a one time IRA transfer to Roth IRAs
and slashing the defense budget, place our security at
risk and ultimately leading to 911.
   ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!
-T

Some good economic information here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential
_party
Federal budget deficits
Blinder and Watson reported that budget deficits tended to be smaller
under Democrats, at 2.1% potential GDP versus 2.8% potential GDP for
Republicans, a difference of about 0.7 of a percentage point. They
wrote that higher budget deficits should theoretically have boosted
the economy more for Republicans, and therefore cannot explain the
greater GDP growth under Democrats.[1]
Since 1981, federal budget deficits have increased under Republican
presidents Reagan, both Bushes and Trump, while deficits have declined
under Democratic presidents Clinton and Obama. The economy ran
surpluses during Clinton's last four fiscal years, the first surpluses
since 1969. The deficit was projected to decline sharply in Joe
Biden's first fiscal year.

Wikipedia...snort.

Try a more authoritative source, not some left-wing slanted piece of crap.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/

You would have flunked most basic math classes. Here's the record under
Clinton at the end of each fiscal year. See how the National Debt
increased each year of his presidency? Never once did he balance a
budget or have a surplus.

Fiscal
Year Year
Ending National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion

You know how that fish story got started? Basic accounting sleight of
hand.

Bill Clinton and his "accounting" team simply shuffled debt from one
debt category to another, while lying about reducing the debt /
balancing the budget. He paid down the Public Debt while increasing the
National Debt, even failing at that as evidenced by the numbers.

In the private sector, one goes to jail for accounting fraud like that.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Alain Burger

Post by Mort Adella
Since 1981, federal budget deficits have increased under Republican
presidents Reagan, both Bushes and Trump, while deficits have declined
under Democratic presidents Clinton and Obama. The economy ran
surpluses during Clinton's last four fiscal years, the first surpluses
since 1969. The deficit was projected to decline sharply in Joe
Biden's first fiscal year.

Wikipedia...snort.
Try a more authoritative source, not some left-wing slanted piece of crap.

Facts are facts, dummy, so stop lying.

Post by Alain Burger
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/
You would have flunked most basic math classes. Here's the record under
Clinton at the end of each fiscal year. See how the National Debt
increased each year of his presidency? Never once did he balance a
budget or have a surplus.

You are quite wrong, lame-o. Ever hear of *off* budget spending? Bush was a master at
it.

Using total national debt numbers from
<https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/historical-debt-outstanding/historical-debt-outstanding>

9/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75 Bush ending debt
9/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06 Bush beginning debt
____________________
$6,102,365,591,311.69 Bush's total debt

According to St Louis Fed, Bush's 8 years of deficits for fiscal 2002 - 2009 total $3.5T
<https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFSD>

So where did Bush's other 2.6 Trillion in debt come from?

Off budget spending.

As we see, Bush's total debt was $6,102,365,591,311.69.

But how about Clinton?

9/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06 Clinton ending debt
9/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 Clinton starting debt
___________________
$1,114,713,502,186.74 Clinton total debt

$6,102,365,591,311.69 Bush's total debt
___________________
$4,987,652,089,124.95 Net difference

Bush added six times more to the debt in his eight years than Clinton did in the previous
eight.

In only four years Trump added even more than Bush!

What's even funnier is that Clinton added less to the debt in eight years than Poppy Bush
did in FOUR!

Reagan almost tripled the debt in eight years.
Poppy almost doubled it in four.
Clinton's debt increase over Poppy was only about 40%. For EIGHT years!

Laugh laugh laugh!!!

Swill

Post by Alain Burger
Fiscal
Year Year
Ending National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion
You know how that fish story got started? Basic accounting sleight of
hand.
Bill Clinton and his "accounting" team simply shuffled debt from one
debt category to another, while lying about reducing the debt /
balancing the budget. He paid down the Public Debt while increasing the
National Debt, even failing at that as evidenced by the numbers.
In the private sector, one goes to jail for accounting fraud like that.

Government isn't private sector.

Swill
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- Anthony Scaramucci

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[T]

You are quite wrong, lame-o. Ever hear of*off* budget spending? Bush was a master at
it.

Bush, both of them, were the very definition of RINO's and the swamp.

Being between RINO's/Democrats and other people's money is
like being between the pig and the trough.

[Skid Marks]

Post by T

You are quite wrong, lame-o.  Ever hear of*off*  budget spending?  Bush was a master at
it.

Bush, both of them, were the very definition of RINO's and the swamp.
Being between RINO's/Democrats and other people's money is
like being between the pig and the trough.

"Look at the Crazy List of Things Illegal Immigrants Get for ‘FREE’ in Liberal Taxxachusetts"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/look-crazy-list-things-illegal-immigrants-get-free/

https://howiecarrshow.com/freebies-for-illegals-a-comprehensive-list/


After working and paying taxes for 45 years, all I get from Michigan is yet another tax bill.

[Governor Swill]

Post by T

You are quite wrong, lame-o.  Ever hear of*off*  budget spending?  Bush was a master at
it.

Bush, both of them, were the very definition of RINO's and the swamp.
Being between RINO's/Democrats and other people's money is
like being between the pig and the trough.

"Look at the Crazy List of Things Illegal Immigrants Get for ‘FREE’ in Liberal Taxxachusetts"

What do either of these statements this have to do with Republicans spending is into tens
of trillions of debt?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/look-crazy-list-things-illegal-immigrants-get-free/
https://howiecarrshow.com/freebies-for-illegals-a-comprehensive-list/
After working and paying taxes for 45 years, all I get from Michigan is yet another tax bill.

So?

Swill
--
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- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

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Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.
No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
Democrats have turned in six surpluses.
Swill

Dear Swill,
You did not list the budgets and the deficits spending versus
what parties in charge.

Guess again, dummy.

". . . Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem supermajority in the House and a 2/3
Dem majority in the Senate"

The numbers came from St Louis Fed.
<https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFSD>

Post by T
Guess the "Truth Ministry" left that crap out.

Your partisan eyes left it out.

Post by T
And you missed "the Zipper's" one year balanced budget, which
he did by doing a one time IRA transfer to Roth IRAs
and slashing the defense budget, place our security at
risk and ultimately leading to 911.

If you're referring to Clinton, he turned in *four* consecutive surpluses. Mostly he did
it by cutting Federal borrowing costs and practicing spending restraint during an economic
boom.

While he was doing that, the Republicans were desperately trying to spend as much as
possible to dry up Clinton's surpluses. At one point, they actually "borrowed" from 2001
just so they could claim they weren't violating *their own spending caps*.

"Using Surplus Forces Clinton To Sign Bills, DeLay Says"
"''We're going to spend it [the surplus], and then some,'' Mr. DeLay said. ''From the
get-go, the strategy has always been we're going to spend what's left.''"
<https://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/06/us/using-surplus-forces-clinton-to-sign-bills-delay-says.html>

""The Republicans spent the August recess talking about a projected
10-year budget surplus that they said would underwrite their proposed
tax cut. But now Dan L. Crippen, the director of the Congressional
Budget Office, says no surplus is coming soon. The developing plans of
Congressional Republicans could drain away at least $25 billion,
wiping out next year's projected $14 billion surplus and creating an
$11 billion deficit, Mr. Crippen calculates.""
<http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/09/us/lawmakers-spending-plans-could-turn-surplus-to-deficit.html>

""The tussle over the public treasure is shaping up as a war.
Representative Tom DeLay, the House majority whip and conservative
major domo, said in an interview last week that draining the surplus
was a deliberate strategy designed to force President Clinton to
submit to the Republicans' political will."
<http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/15/weekinreview/the-nation-hunting-for-that-elusive-surplus.html>

""WASHINGTON, Sept. 14— Draining the budget surplus for 2000 and
thirsty for more money to finance their spending bills, Republicans
will tap the projected surplus for 2001 for $12 billion or more, the
chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee said today.""
<http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/15/us/republican-plans-to-tap-2001-surplus-now.html>

Post by T
¡Viva la libertad, carajo!

Go back to Mexico, asshat.

Swill
--
"Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
- Anthony Scaramucci

https://www.forwardparty.com/ . .

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

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[T]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T
¡Viva la libertad, carajo!

Go back to Mexico, asshat.
Swill

No clue where that comes from, do you Swill. But
that does not stop you calling other people names.

No doubt here shortly when you finally look it up,
pronounce to all of us that the originator of that
saying is responsible for deficit spending and that
his predecessors had nothing to do with it. Love
that 240 % inflation! Truth Ministry rules!

I repeat: ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!

[Dindu Nuffin]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by T

Post by Governor Swill

Post by lloyd
Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
thousand fold added to it.

If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.
You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.
But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

Bullshit.
No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
Democrats have turned in six surpluses.
Swill

A Democrat's budget is "massaged" so much that it usually has an orgasm.

[T]

Post by pothead

Post by Frank
I often look at housing costs in other locations. Could not find exact
house but googled up a million dollar house in Queens. Squatters would
abandon it if they had to pay the property tax of $38,000 a year. Oddly
another costing twice as much was half the tax. Still enough to drive
out any resident.

Look up houses in Sunset Park Brooklyn, or literally any of the boroughs and you will find attached
row houses going for 1 to 2 million dollars.
I agree it's insane but that is what it is.
<https://www.zillow.com/brooklyn-new-york-ny-11220/?searchQueryState=%7B%22pagination%22%3A%7B%7D%2C
%22isMapVisible%22%3Atrue%2C%22mapBounds%22%3A%7B%22west%22%3A-74.08532907458495%2C%22east%22%3A-73.
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Liberals have too much money.

You'd think they could afford a security system.
It would end their squatter problem. They
have to be squatting for 30 days to not be
trespassing.